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PSA for newer owners — bank-bundled POS hardware is a trap.

When you open a business bank account, they pitch you a credit card machine. There's a machine charging you this much money — and while you figure it out, you've already locked in. The bank reps earn residuals on your account. Know what you're signing.

Vendors
62 27 Last comment 1h ago
QS

Square vs. Clover — when do you make the jump?

Most restaurants probably use Square because it's much more user-friendly — straight to the point. Clover seems built for more established places with broader inventory. Trying to figure out where we land.

Vendors
47 28 Last comment 2h ago

Still not back to pre-pandemic numbers downtown.

Pre-pandemic we were doing really well. We served the office workers of downtown, Monday to Friday. Since the pandemic we've had to lay off 50% of our employees, and we're still not recovering. Anyone else downtown finding a way through?

Finance
38 19 Last comment 4h ago
MV

Landlord wants 22% at renewal. This is how I'm approaching the conversation.

Got my renewal letter last week. 22% bump, 5-year term. I'm not signing that. What's working for me: pulled three comparable vacancies within two blocks and sent them over before our first meeting. Landlord came back 8 points lower before I said a word. If you're in SoMa or the Mission right now, the leverage is more on your side than they want you to think.

Finance
118 37 Last comment 30m ago
DP

Outdoor dining permit renewal in SF — what DPW actually looks at.

Renewed mine last quarter. Three things they actually care about: ADA clearance on the accessible path (44-inch minimum — they will measure), structural sign-off on any permanent awning or side walls, and your certificate of insurance naming the city as additional insured. First submission got kicked because one pinch point was 42 inches. Moved a planter, resubmitted. Total turnaround about 5 weeks. Happy to share the full checklist.

Compliance
174 31 Last comment 3h ago

DoorDash just bumped us to 30%. At what point do you pull off the platform?

We're a neighborhood spot — delivery is maybe 15% of covers but at 30% commission we're basically working for free on those orders. Raised delivery menu prices 12% to offset it and got a wave of one-stars saying we're "expensive." Considering cutting them entirely and pushing guests to our own ordering link. What are others doing?

Vendors
89 44 Last comment 4h ago
CF

Health inspection coming up Thursday. What do they actually dig into?

Second year in, first unannounced inspection. I've gone through the SF DPH checklist a hundred times but I know the checklist and what they actually focus on are different things. Walk-in temp logs, date labeling, handwashing stations — I've got all that covered. What are the things that actually catch people off guard?

Compliance
41 22 Last comment 1h ago
TG

Switched to full tip share six months ago. Here's what I wish I knew going in.

Lost two servers in the first month — they were making more than the kitchen under the old system and they knew it. I knew that would happen. What I didn't expect: the kitchen crew got dramatically more invested in table turns and quality. Six months in, total labor cost is basically flat and the FOH/BOH tension is gone. Would do it again but be upfront with your team early — the first 60 days are rough.

People
53 18 Last comment 6h ago
RE

OEWD small biz grant came through. Here's how I navigated the application.

Applied for the SF Office of Economic and Workforce Development Community grant last cycle as a minority-owned business. The thing most people miss: the narrative section matters more than the numbers. They want the community impact story — not just your P&L. Got $22K in the first cycle. Happy to look over draft applications for anyone going through it now.

Finance
34 12 Last comment 1d ago

Is it just me or do contractors quote you differently when your husband is in the room?

Kitchen hood upgrade — got a $48K quote solo. Brought my partner to the follow-up and the same contractor came back at $31K "after reviewing the scope." I've heard almost exactly this story from three other women owners in the last month. How are people handling this — do you always bring someone, or have you found contractors who don't play this game?

People
61 29 Last comment 5h ago
SH

SF Women's Business Center actually helped me renegotiate my lease. Genuinely surprised.

Used their free lease advisory service before my renewal. Their advisor flagged two clauses I'd have signed without blinking — a personal guarantee with no cap, and an assignment clause that would have made selling the business nearly impossible. Both got changed in negotiation. The service is free, it's under-used, and if you're heading into any lease conversation it's worth a call before you sit down.

Finance
48 16 Last comment 2d ago

Survived year one. The thing that almost broke us wasn't what I expected.

I thought it would be cash flow or food cost. It was scheduling. Specifically: 3am texts from staff calling out for Saturday brunch — no backup list, no coverage protocol, just me scrambling every weekend for 7 months straight. Month 8 I built a simple standby list and made coverage part of every new hire's onboarding conversation. Hasn't solved it completely but cut my personal exposure significantly. Curious what others have built.

People
58 23 Last comment 3d ago
WB

When did you actually start paying yourself? Asking seriously.

14 months in, still drawing nothing. My accountant says this is normal and expected. My body is not sure. I know the textbook answer is "when the business can support it" — I'm asking for the real timeline. What month did it happen for people who made it through year two and are actually okay now?

Finance
77 31 Last comment 8h ago

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68%
↑ 3ppvs 30 days ago
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